Soon thereafter, he announced that he would not be a candidate for reelection as governor. After leaving office in January , Dukakis and his wife, Kitty, spent three months at the University of Hawaii where Dukakis was a visiting professor in the Department of Political Science and the School of Public Health.
His research has focused on national health care policy reform and the lessons that national policy makers can learn from state reform efforts. Recently, he and former U. Senator Paul Simon authored a book entitled How to Get Into Politics-and Why which is designed to encourage young people to think seriously about politics and public service as a career. He served a full five-year term on the Amtrak Board as Vice-Chairman.
Mike and Kitty Dukakis have three children: John, Andrea, and Kara, and are the proud grandparents of seven grandchildren. Katharine Kitty D. Dukakis First Lady of Massachusetts , She now serves as a member of its Committee on Conscience. Dukakis has worked extensively on issues related to the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, and contemporary human rights issues.
She also organized a Task Force on Cambodian Children. In Ms. Dukakis organized a mission to Thailand where she worked for the release of unaccompanied orphaned Cambodian minors, most of whom settled in Massachusetts. The program developed demonstration projects and research models for the design, management, and funding of public spaces. Dukakis now serves on the advisory board of Mapendo International, a humanitarian organization that rescues and protects at risk and forgotten refugees in Africa.
She is also the author of two books: Now You Know, the story of her battle with addiction and depression and Shock: The Healing Power of Electroconvulsive Therapy, co-authored with Larry Tye, which describes how ECT proved to be the one treatment that dealt effectively with her reoccurring cycles of depression.
Dukakis attended Pennsylvania State University and received a B. She also received an M. She and her husband, Michael S. They have three children, John, Andrea and Kara, and seven grandchildren. Northeastern University Go to the Northeastern University homepage. Northeastern University. Office of the Dean. Undergraduate Student Paths. Graduate Student Paths.
Schools, Departments, and Programs. Global Opportunities. Mike Dukakis: Well, Kitty, for no apparent reason, Jane, in her early forties began experiencing these recurring cycles of depression. And they would hit about every eight or nine months, for no reason, they had nothing to do with anything. She was busy, she was active, doing lots of good things, but every time we'd hit that eight or nine months mark, she'd start going down.
She was being treated, she had therapy. She must have taken five or six anti-depressants over that period of time, and nothing worked. And so for a three or four month period she'd be in one of these deep, deep depressions.
Then she'd kind of come out of them, and she'd be okay, Jane, for another eight or nine months, then she'd go back in, and that happened for 17 years. And he's a wonderful guy, and a great doctor, and has become a good friend. And he showed us a tape of some of his patients and their experiences. And Kitty was at the end of her rope and so she said at that time, look, when it happens again, I want to have this treatment.
And it just so happened that I had a couple of speeches to make, in Barcelona, of all places. We decided to tack on five days in Paris. And I thought we were having a great time and Kitty was starting to go down again. And we got back to Boston, and she was so shaky the night before her first treatment with ECT that she didn't trust herself to come home, and asked Doctor Welsh to hospitalize her. So, I didn't take her to the Mass General, she was there, and I arrived about nine o'clock in the morning to pick her up.
And the first treatment had ended the depression, like that. My smiling, charming, lovely wife was back! And, as I think she said this in the book, we were driving up Storrow Drive, it was the 20th of June, our wedding anniversary, and Kitty said, 'Let's go to dinner,', I said, 'Are you serious? She continued to cycle.
So, eight or nine months later, she started going down. But this time, she recognized it, and so for the first year or two, she would have five or six treatments, and she'd be fine, only to being to go back into a depression in eight or nine months. And finally, Dr. Walsh decided to put her on what is called ECT maintenance.
So she now has a treatment about every six weeks KD: six, or seven, or eight , and now has them at McLean hospital where Dr. Welsh is. And she's been fine for years as a result of this, and because of her experience, obviously has now become an advocate.
JC: Kitty tell us about your treatment. What is it like to have electroconvulsive therapy? KD: After so many years now, and it's close to twenty-plus years, I hardly feel the needle going in for the electricity that I have minutes later for ECT.
And I'm asleep within a very short time, I see my doctor beforehand, and if I have any questions about anything, I can talk to him then. But usually if I have questions I will talk to him before my treatment. And I'm awake I guess within 45 minutes or a half hour. KD: It's so hard to remember two decades later.
I do remember feeling a bit foggy when I first woke up. KD: I'm tired. And I often sleep for an hour or two. But the initial feelings are just very minor for me. I had a little bit of memory loss but that is not an issue and not a problem now. Do you ever think, 'I'm doing fine, I don't need to keep doing this'? KD: [chuckles] No, I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say I'm doing fine that definitively, however, if I have to do this for the rest of my life — and I just turned 80 — that does not bother me, that does not trouble me.
And it is, for me right now, a benign treatment and I know that it'll help my mood if I am feeling a little down. And that's about it. JC: Governor Dukakis, why do you think this treatment is so reviled? MD: Jane, that was then, it's certainly not the case now. JC: Right, very different. Was that an accurate representation of this treatment? MD: At the time, well, back in the 40's and 50's, it was a very tough treatment.
But it's been refined and improved, it's totally painless. Actually when the needle goes in, Kitty is getting anesthesia. And so she's not aware of the treatment taking place. But doctor welsh will tell you about this, but the number of people getting ECT these days is increased dramatically. I think Kitty's example and her advocacy has something to do with that. But the fact of the matter is, that while for some people medication is very helpful, and for other people therapy is helpful, a very large percentage of folks who suffer from severe depression get no relief from these treatments.
And that's why ECT is so important. Thanks for transcription help to Jeremy-Miles Rellosa.
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